Toil & Trouble

As we continue to digest what a landmark and slightly bonkers year 2025 was for SIR, we caught up with Macbeth director EMMA WELHAM, who bravely survived the famed cursed play! Emma reminds me a lot of myself when I was starting out: passionate about the work, a true lover of the form, and an enthusiastic collaborator who lives and breathes for the joy of making words jump off the page and come alive. Directing Macbeth was her first professional contract as a director, and she talks about the importance of companies like SIR – a place where emerging talents get to shine and join the professional industry. – RODRIGO, artistic director
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How is life now, Emma, after having survived a legendary season at SIR? What have you been up to?
Life is grand at the moment! After the SIR season finished, I returned to Montreal to begin my final year in the directing program at The National Theatre School of Canada. At the time of writing this, I have just finished the fall term where I had numerous wonderful experiences including directing My Name is Lucy Barton as my capstone project, and spending two transformative weeks studying Shakespeare with Sir Gregory Doran, former artistic director of The Royal Shakespeare Company. Now I’m back in Winnipeg for the holidays and enjoying catching up with the community here.
What attracted you to Macbeth, and why did you want to direct such a complex text?
I wrote about this in my director’s notes – Macbeth holds a very special place in my heart because it was the first SIR show I ever saw! The stripped down tour came to my high school when I was in grade 11 and I’ve never forgotten the experience. Outside of those fond memories, I think Macbeth is a very timely show. I was attracted to its tale of how unchecked ambition can throw a whole society into turmoil. As well, the conversation the play raises on toxic masculinity and how, for me, it questions what happens when we shut ourselves off from our feminine side was extremely compelling. I also became fascinated by the relationship between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth – they start off as equals, and once Macbeth starts to shut out Lady M, charting how both of them unravel through this new found isolation was a delight to explore with the actors. Finally, it was a very exciting challenge to examine and explore all the possibilities that were opened up to us because we were staging Macbeth at the Ruins!
What do you think are the biggest challenges of directing at the Ruins?
When you work at the Ruins, because you’re outdoors, every day comes with unknown variables and you have to be prepared for many possibilities. For example, you might plan to spend all day blocking, but if, suddenly, a massive storm comes, you’ve got to be able to change plans real quick. I don’t think I’ve ever checked my weather app more than when I’ve worked at the Ruins! I also echo what others have said, in that I think climate change is becoming an increasingly difficult challenge for not just the Ruins, but for all outdoor theatre. Even comparing my experience working on The Dark Lady in 2023 to Macbeth in 2025, in just two years there has been a massive increase of shows cancelled due to smoke and storms. It’s heartbreaking.
And the best things? Things you can only do and experience at SIR?
I love working at the Ruins. Out there in nature with the team, feeling slightly removed from regular life, I always feel like I’m away at summer camp. SIR allows you to create a theatrical experience unlike anything else in Winnipeg. The whole site is really your playground, and you can create these sweeping moments that engulf the audience and immerse them in the story. The promenade nature and the fact that you can see the audience for the majority of the show also enlivens that bond between performer and audience in a unique way – it becomes very intimate. Especially in Shakespeare, with all his soliloquies, the audience really becomes a collection of people that the characters can turn to and bare their souls. As well, while all theatre offers a sense of liveness, of anything-can-happenness, at the Ruins I find that liveness heightened because TRULY anything can happen – Will you see wildlife? Will the weather create a perfect atmosphere for the climax of the play? Will a rock calypso band be playing next door? (All real examples of things that I have experienced at the Ruins.) It is always an unforgettable night of theatre.
What are some of your fondest memories of enduring Macbeth? During the process, did you ever wish you were directing another Shakespeare play? Perhaps a comedy?
I have many! First, I have to say the resilience and unwavering dedication of everyone, from the cast and crew to the full-time SIR staff as we took on everything this season threw at us will always inspire me. In terms of specific memories, I will name the following two: 1. Before the show opened to the general public, we had several student matinees – seeing them engrossed in and reacting to the story was a true highlight. 2. Our witches were crafted around birds, with their costumes being inspired by owls. And when we got out to the Ruins, we had two majestic owls who joined us and could often be seen and heard. What’s more, these owls are barred owls (pronounced bard) – we had our very own Shakespeare owls! To answer your second question, no, I never wished I was directing a different Shakespeare play while doing Macbeth. However, as we worked, I did get flashes of how I might do other Shakespeare plays out at the Ruins – there are several I’d love to do out there!
When one of the actors fell sick, about 3 weeks into the run of the show, you were called upon to perform in their place, book-in-hand. How was that?! Did it make you want to act again? Was it very different experiencing the play from inside?
It was an exhilarating experience! The last time I had performed Shakespeare was in a 2019 production of Love’s Labour’s Lost directed by Rodrigo (which is how we met, and this wonderful journey began), so to be able to stretch those muscles again was a challenge I had a lot of fun meeting. And it must be said how incredibly supportive the entire team was – from gently nudging me where I needed to go, to helping me learn fight choreo before curtain, to cheering me on through-out – it was a beautiful thing to know I was amongst people who always had my back. What I loved experiencing from the inside was getting to see all the intricacies of everything going on backstage, some of which I was aware of, and some of which I was not, that allowed the show to run smoothly, and which I never saw while watching the show from out front. Also, I will say: it was 28 degrees and sunny the day I went on, and by the time we got to act 5, I had gained a deep appreciation for the stamina it takes to do a show in those weather conditions! I don’t know if I’ll act again (I’ll never say never!), but I certainly will remember my SIR acting debut for the rest of my life!
Why do you think it’s important to protect the future of a company like SIR?
SIR is a vital part of not just our theatre community, but our Winnipeg community. From an artistic stand-point SIR not only allows artists to sink their teeth into these beautiful heightened texts, but also gives many emerging artists, myself included, some of their first professional opportunities, allowing them to grow by working alongside and learning from the immense talent we have in Winnipeg. From a community stand-point, there is no theatrical experience in Winnipeg like what you experience when you go to a show at the Ruins. To me it has always felt like stepping into another world.
And finally, what’s a favourite play by Shakespeare you’d love to direct one day?
My favourite play by Shakespeare is Much Ado About Nothing. A long-time lover of the Kenneth Branagh film, that’s a show I very much hope is in my future as a director!
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